Donald Trump has become the first president in history to be indicted under criminal charges. How does this affect the 2024 presidential election?

Trump going to prison would make the GOP incredibly happy. As it stands he’s the favorite to win their primary. They know he’s got almost no chance of winning so they want him gone. They’ll publicly talk about government overreach and weaponizing the Justice department but privately they’re thrilled they might be able to get rid of their albatross.

They absolutely will cave, indeed. People keep going on about 2016 but loads of things happened since then that have made Trump toxic. Loads of Republicans openly said they should move away from him after their midterm disaster.

However, if he would win the primary for the GOP there is not a doubt in my mind these same people will all fall back in line right away to kiss the ring.

They’ll cave. Trumps loyal base may be 30% of GOP voters (rather than the population), but they’re the once who turn out for primaries and elections like clockwork. The GOP can’t win without them so they can’t risk alienating them.

Think that 30% will shrink when it sinks in that trump is an (accused) petty criminal. It’s just too humiliating. I know, some will never turn their back on him but I think enough will soften and rally behind someone else who might actually win. I think he’s finished even if he doesn’t spend any time in confinement. Add in that he’s deteriorating visibly and I don’t see much of a future for him.

I doubt that. It’ll just make him all the more popular. He’s only being charged in corrupt NYC. Who gives a fuck?

Think that 30% will shrink when it sinks in that trump is an (accused) petty criminal. It’s just too humiliating. I know, some will never turn their back on him but I think enough will soften and rally behind someone else who might actually win. I think he’s finished even if he doesn’t spend any time in confinement. Add in that he’s deteriorating visibly and I don’t see much of a future for him.

They’re just first in line, patience.

And nobody likes the guy who gets caught. Kinda makes it hard to worship him when he’s hauled in by the po-po like every other POS.

I doubt that. It’ll just make him all the more popular. He’s only being charged in corrupt NYC. Who gives a fuck?

That’s just the first of many and obviously there’s nothing corrupt about a grand jury indictment.

I doubt that. It’ll just make him all the more popular. He’s only being charged in corrupt NYC. Who gives a fuck?

Biden is out of his mind. The old fool doesn’t realize that he’s just a clown’s puppet on the Democrats’ arm. The Democrats will not understand in any way that they have turned the whole world against it by their actions. They have long sank to the bottom of the dirty puddle that they themselves dug in Ukraine. Trump, if he wins, it will be the best option to get out of the Ukrainian shit that could end up in nuclear ashes.

Trump’s loyal base is probably around 30% of the country and 60%+ of GOP voters.

I have a hard time seeing a middle scenario between circling the wagons and doing a 2008 George Bush and quietly pretending he never existed as the head of the party.

It’s the hierarchy.

The same primal fear their voters feel when they think the people on the rung below them are going to join them on their step of the social ladder, propels them to blindly fall behind the person at the top of the hierarchy.

When they made it impossible for Democrats to reach their base with reason and logic, they did the same to themselves.

They’ll cave. Trumps loyal base may be 30% of GOP voters (rather than the population), but they’re the once who turn out for primaries and elections like clockwork. The GOP can’t win without them so they can’t risk alienating them.

It’s perfect, really.

Trump is extremely popular with the MAGA base of the GOP. He is very unpopular with the country as a whole. A recent Marist poll found that 61 percent of respondents did not want Trump to be the president again. (And even 41 percent of respondents who identified as white Evangelical Christians didn’t want him again.)

I just don’t think that this is a realistic way of evaluating Republican candidates at all any more.

I absolutely believe your numbers, I don’t think you’re lying or anything.

I think they’re lying. To themselves. Republicans and “moderate” conservatives will swear up and down until they’re blue in the face that they hate Trump, don’t believe in Trump, think Trump is the worst, etc, etc. But when they’re actually in the voting booth, they’ll vote R.

I totally believe that 41% of Evangelical Christians say they don’t want Trump. I also believe that by the time we’re actually voting, their pastors will have long since finished the “Biden is the devil and we sometimes have to make hard choices to protect America” spiel.

Trump is extremely popular with the MAGA base of the GOP. He is very unpopular with the country as a whole. A recent Marist poll found that 61 percent of respondents did not want Trump to be the president again. (And even 41 percent of respondents who identified as white Evangelical Christians didn’t want him again.)

This. They might not like Trump. They might not want trump. But they’ll vote for him, over just about anyone and everyone else.