Another angle is that Trump was carried by white boomers who felt control of the nation slipping away from their generation.
Something like 7% of Trump’s 2016 voters will be dead by 2024. Trumpism itself is dead. It’s not electorally viable in 2024 with so many boomers gone and so many more Millennials and Gen Z voting.
I have a feeling GOP is going to get a very rude awakening in 2024. They’re going to get crushed in a historic feat that might destroy the party.
They thought 2018, 2020, and 2022 were “worst than expected”… They ain’t seen nothing yet. Those were just the foreshocks
People who worry about a repeat of 2016 forget that Hillary got over 3 million votes more than The Donald, who only oozed into the White House by convincing just enough independents to give him a chance. Having seen the clown show that was his first term, those folks aren’t giving him the benefit of doubt again. What worries me is that the fascists will try another coup attempt, and this time succeed.
I’m with ya in some respects. I do think the main difference is that Democrats were pretty much asleep at the wheel in 2016 and have made up significant ground in battle ground states since that time.
It’s also a lot easier to craft a message about Trump that isn’t entirely about him being a womanizing creep. This is the guy that fucked up COVID, he’s been indicted/convicted of criminal charges, and he’s the one ultimately responsible for stripping reproductive rights away from women.
I agree - just lots of unknowns with Trump and his base. And Democrats are good at dropping the ball like in 2016, for whatever reasons (whole thread in itself).
Though not sure about COVID exactly, his record is mixed because Operation Warp Speed at least was successful. The rest was pretty disastrous, especially the public messaging.
I’m with ya in some respects. I do think the main difference is that Democrats were pretty much asleep at the wheel in 2016 and have made up significant ground in battle ground states since that time.
It’s also a lot easier to craft a message about Trump that isn’t entirely about him being a womanizing creep. This is the guy that fucked up COVID, he’s been indicted/convicted of criminal charges, and he’s the one ultimately responsible for stripping reproductive rights away from women.
Trump isn’t responsible for Roe, Mitch is the one responsible for that. Mitch is the one that pitched the judges to Trump and got Trump to agree to them.
He is responsible. They were his nominees and if he didn’t win his election we wouldn’t be here. Mitch would have had to tell Hillary and I don’t think they would see eye to eye.
Mitch deserves his own share of the blame. As do every single republican who voted to confirm and when they held seats open to deny Obama a SC pick.
Trump isn’t responsible for Roe, Mitch is the one responsible for that. Mitch is the one that pitched the judges to Trump and got Trump to agree to them.
He is responsible. They were his nominees and if he didn’t win his election we wouldn’t be here. Mitch would have had to tell Hillary and I don’t think they would see eye to eye.
Mitch deserves his own share of the blame. As do every single republican who voted to confirm and when they held seats open to deny Obama a SC pick.
Hillary got more votes, but Trump played the electoral vote game. I am not sure there be another coup attempt more so a large attempt of government take over.
GOP running criminals for office, which they often do, is not a winning strategy. Trump is not a viable candidate and deSantis is rapidly making himself unelectable too. GOP needs to find someone sane or just forfeit 2024
GOP running criminals for office, which they often do, is not a winning strategy. Trump is not a viable candidate and deSantis is rapidly making himself unelectable too. GOP needs to find someone sane or just forfeit 2024
Difference being rhis time around is the majority of the country hates what he did when he lost, and now seeing him try it all over again from a shitty Florida resort as if he has power. He got a shot and blew it.
Man I feel like 2016 could be repeating again of people repeating that Trump is “unelectable”. He will gladly bring out country to new lows and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up being the guy with the R next to his name in the general, if people wind up not caring.
Debate policy at this point and genuinely put out reasons and examples as to why Biden and the democrats as a whole have been making your life better. Combat back that Trump/whoever has nothing better to offer in return.
People will think statements to not vote for Trump because he’s “unelectable” are stupid. They’ll obviously see that he’s available to select on the ballot, and do exactly that to spite you.
Lol under what rock do you live under? A majority of the country does not “hate what he did when he lost” - though I sure wish that was true!! A majority of gop voters thinks he had every right to do it, and that he ought to have won , and should be our president now. FFS. THAT’S the gods damned problem.
Difference being rhis time around is the majority of the country hates what he did when he lost, and now seeing him try it all over again from a shitty Florida resort as if he has power. He got a shot and blew it.
I hear you, but majority of GOP voters =/= majority of voters. I’ve got a general theory that for every vote trump captures with his ridiculous antics, he loses ~1.5