“I hate Trump, definitely not someone I’d ordinarily vote for, but I just had to hold my nose and do the deed anyway”
-Republicans who “were forced to vote their conscience” back in 2016 and 2020…
They’ll do it again…
Those 41% of Evangelicals likely don’t want Trump to be president again, but I feel they’d prefer him to any Democrat due to their brainwashing/cult status. So at the end of the day, I’d venture to guess the vast majority of them will still vote for Trump in the general.
I think the knee-jerk reaction is this will help him in the primary - at the very least providing a huge fundraising boost, but it’s hard to imagine this isn’t a massive blow to his chances with non-MAGA independents he needs to win the general.
Some evangelicals are turning away from traitortrump. The preponderance of crimes eventually weighs on people who profess to having any kind of morals or ethics. And people have been fleeing the hate, lies, racism, bigotry and greed of the white evangelical churches. This is the group Pence is trying to pick up. Not big enough to win anything though
Those 41% of Evangelicals likely don’t want Trump to be president again, but I feel they’d prefer him to any Democrat due to their brainwashing/cult status. So at the end of the day, I’d venture to guess the vast majority of them will still vote for Trump in the general.
I think the knee-jerk reaction is this will help him in the primary - at the very least providing a huge fundraising boost, but it’s hard to imagine this isn’t a massive blow to his chances with non-MAGA independents he needs to win the general.
I mean they might just leave the president spot blank which is still a change if they voted for him in 2020 and 2016.
Those 41% of Evangelicals likely don’t want Trump to be president again, but I feel they’d prefer him to any Democrat due to their brainwashing/cult status. So at the end of the day, I’d venture to guess the vast majority of them will still vote for Trump in the general.
Bullshit. They’ll pick trump over a democrat every day of the week. For the supreme court if nothing else.
They have the supreme Court sewn up for the next decade pretty much
Bullshit. They’ll pick trump over a democrat every day of the week. For the supreme court if nothing else.
it’s an enthusiasm game. Let’s say 1% of Evangelicals stay home because they’re tired of the Trump game. That’s has the potential to flip the election. Our system is so stupid that 100k votes across 3 states can decide the whole thing. It’s a war of attrition more than anything.
Yes and since the electoral college is designed in a way that it provides a large bonus to the conservative and fascist leaning minorities of the country I would not say that Trump getting elected is completely out of the quotation, it’s a very real possibility despite him being overall unpopular.
Reuters today said 44% of republicans feel he should drop out of the race if indicted. That’s a huge chunk of the non-MAGA republicans. He can’t win the general election at this point.
People also know who he is now after 4 years and how he deals with being POTUS. That’s at minimum part of his reason for losing in 2020. His chances aren’t looking great.
Yeah I agree, the GOP establishment probably knows they don’t have a viable political party anymore without the Trump base, so they’ll probably let Trump have the nomination and throw 2024 to Democrats while hoping for another upset, and mostly focus on planning for 2028.
I am not sure the GOP will be able to find a viable electable candidate to run in 2028.
What really matters is what happens in specific voting districts. Gerrymandering is very real in this country, and we’ve seen presidents win without the popular vote. I’m still concerned. I live in the Philly suburbs, and while my district is blue in a lot of parts, that might not matter depending on how the map is drawn. That 30-40% could do a lot in PA, and all of the other swing states.
Fortunately PA now has Dems in office to fix voter suppression issues and let the people vote. And MI is in even better condition
What really matters is what happens in specific voting districts. Gerrymandering is very real in this country, and we’ve seen presidents win without the popular vote. I’m still concerned. I live in the Philly suburbs, and while my district is blue in a lot of parts, that might not matter depending on how the map is drawn. That 30-40% could do a lot in PA, and all of the other swing states.
Is John Fetterman delivering?