The funny thing is that while blocking Trump for the ballot would be awful for the GOP in '24, it’d be good for the GOP in subsequent elections; the meltdown would happen and they’d be able to move past it and rebuild as a (more or less) normal political party again.
Right? Republicans at all levels from your crazy neighbor to the pastor of the local evangelical church all the way up to the RNC and beyond have proven beyond doubt that laws, customs, the constitution of the US mean nothing to them at all.
They will burn them all to ashes for raw dictatorial political power! This does not end with Trump. Don’t believe that for a second!
I’m actually thinking it would be good for them in 24. Haley polls well against Biden. Plus they get to say they’d be the ones electing a person of color and the first woman president. Obviously its the left that are the true racists/anti-women people.
…except, of course, that in the actual event, Trump would rally a significant chunk of the MAGA vote to either write him in (despite the ineligibility) or not vote at all.
Don’t get me so excited, it’s early here
That would require a lot of work on his part that I don’t see him putting in. He’s not a real campaigner, he’s not a grassroots kind of guy.
…except, of course, that in the actual event, Trump would rally a significant chunk of the MAGA vote to either write him in (despite the ineligibility) or not vote at all.
I think you underestimate the clarity of purpose brought about by a cocktail of spite and desperation to avoid prison. Besides, he’s got people to really beat the write-in drum for him if it were to come down to that.
But also, Trump is absolutely a grassroots campaign kind of person, I’d argue. His rallies and email blasts are some of the best targeted political ads there are. They’re often serving stupid ends, but he is phenomenal at getting his dumb message out there.
He’s a vengeance kind of guy. Vengeance is one of the major factors in his personality. He would absolutely put in the work to screw over someone else.
That would require a lot of work on his part that I don’t see him putting in. He’s not a real campaigner, he’s not a grassroots kind of guy.
Seriously, look at the guy. The only thing holding him together at this point is rage and the dried up crust of his spray tan. If he let’s go of his grievances for even a minute, he’ll die.
He’s a vengeance kind of guy. Vengeance is one of the major factors in his personality. He would absolutely put in the work to screw over someone else.
Plus they get to say they’d be the ones electing a person of color
No fucking way would they broadcast this too loud. In fact, “Nikki” has to hope a pissed off Trump isn’t out there blasting “Nimarata Randhawa” on social media.
I’m actually thinking it would be good for them in 24. Haley polls well against Biden. Plus they get to say they’d be the ones electing a person of color and the first woman president. Obviously its the left that are the true racists/anti-women people.
For years, I kept assuming that would happen - that the party would move on and return to some sense of normalcy. I’m not fully convinced anymore that it will happen; the GOP rank-and-file’s embrace of conspiracy theories, anti-intellectualism, and elevation of “own the libs” over any real policies has taken on a life of its own. I would not be surprised if this… mentality (?) continues to dominate the party for a decade or more past Trump’s irrelevance, whenever that finally happens.
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Trump is loved by the conservative base, disliked/hated by most conservative elites, and feared by conservative politicians. But Supreme Court justices with lifetime appointments are largely free from political pressure.
It wouldn’t surprise me if most of the conservatives on the Supreme Court rule Trump is ineligible under 14th amendment, because they realize (1) he did try to commit insurrection, (2) another Trump term would tear this country further apart, (3) Trump will have a hard time being president with four felony trials on going (and strong evidence of guilt in all four), and (4) the Republican party should be stronger electorally without Trump controlling it.
That said, removing Trump from the ballot will likely be horrible for Republicans in 2024 as Trump is a self-centered narcissist who will try and implode the GOP and get Republicans to protest the vote (or start a civil war or whatever, which will further justify their actions).
I mean once SCOTUS issues their ruling, it’s done. There isn’t another appeal to do. If more legal challenges are filed, it should easily be thrown out by lower courts as already ruled on by SCOTUS. Further, if some conservative terrorist murdered SCOTUS justices, Biden and the (very narrow) Democratic majority in the Senate would nominate their replacements.
And this SCOTUS has already overruled Roe without fear, which affects a lot more people than one particular man being eligible for the ballot.
Trump is loved by the conservative base, disliked/hated by most conservative elites, and feared by conservative politicians. But Supreme Court justices with lifetime appointments are largely free from political pressure.
It wouldn’t surprise me if most of the conservatives on the Supreme Court rule Trump is ineligible under 14th amendment, because they realize (1) he did try to commit insurrection, (2) another Trump term would tear this country further apart, (3) Trump will have a hard time being president with four felony trials on going (and strong evidence of guilt in all four), and (4) the Republican party should be stronger electorally without Trump controlling it.
That said, removing Trump from the ballot will likely be horrible for Republicans in 2024 as Trump is a self-centered narcissist who will try and implode the GOP and get Republicans to protest the vote (or start a civil war or whatever, which will further justify their actions).
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