I think Kavanaugh could swing to uphold the ruling as well. He’s shown more good judgment than I would expected.
It’s also quite possible trump still takes office again and yanks do nothing to stop it other than say “i voted”
There’s an out here for Gorsuch, as Trump has not been determined constitutionally ineligible. Gorsuch’s ruling clearly states that a third party must determine the candidate unfit to run before states can remove them. With Trump, the states are acting unilaterally without a conviction to point towards.
But they won’t, as only CONGRESS has the power to invoke the 14th Amendment and try someone for insurrection AFTER said President being impeached for such…
You could be right that the supremes will rule in favor of trump, but the reasoning is completely mistaken.
But they won’t, as only CONGRESS has the power to invoke the 14th Amendment and try someone for insurrection AFTER said President being impeached for such…
The question is whether he is in fact constitutionally prohibited from assuming office.
The dissenters’ opinions on this are so fucking stupid as well. They think that every person to take an oath to become a federal officer, from a Senator to a mailman is covered except President of the United States.
Just fucking idiotic.
While this recent decision was 4-3 in Colorado, even the 3 dissenting judges took no issue with the fact that Trump was complicit in January 6th, as an insurrection.
I believe even the lower court agreed with that as well, oddly enough their issue was just not registering President of the US as an “officer” of the United States.
Jan 6th wouldn’t have happened without Trump. This has been repeatedly admitted by those already found guilty of assaulting the capitol. I understand the “not yet found guilty” claim, but this decision by removing him from the ballot doesn’t result in Trump being served with any jail time or fines or anything.
It expressly, and only removes him from being eligible to hold office. He’s perfectly fine to get a different job.
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Apparently the shape of the office mattered to those judges as oval would not qualify
The dissenters’ opinions on this are so fucking stupid as well. They think that every person to take an oath to become a federal officer, from a Senator to a mailman is covered except President of the United States.
Just fucking idiotic.
They’re trying to let him off free. Don’t let them.
The dissenters’ opinions on this are so fucking stupid as well. They think that every person to take an oath to become a federal officer, from a Senator to a mailman is covered except President of the United States.
Just fucking idiotic.
There’s no mention of having been found guilty in the 14th amendment. Imagine an insurrectionist wins his gambit and packs the house and the senate with his people. He’s never going to be found guilty of anything. This gives the states an out on cases like that. And that’s why republicans have trying to erode state’s power over federal elections.
While this recent decision was 4-3 in Colorado, even the 3 dissenting judges took no issue with the fact that Trump was complicit in January 6th, as an insurrection.
I believe even the lower court agreed with that as well, oddly enough their issue was just not registering President of the US as an “officer” of the United States.
Jan 6th wouldn’t have happened without Trump. This has been repeatedly admitted by those already found guilty of assaulting the capitol. I understand the “not yet found guilty” claim, but this decision by removing him from the ballot doesn’t result in Trump being served with any jail time or fines or anything.
It expressly, and only removes him from being eligible to hold office. He’s perfectly fine to get a different job.
Exactly. Historically it wouldn’t have made any sense for there to be a guilty verdict as a requirement, as the 14th Amendment (passed in June 1866) was specifically passed to prevent former Confederates from holding office. Most Confederates, however, had already been given amnesty the year prior in May 1865. A trial requirement would have made this provision of the 14th Amendment almost completely useless as most Confederates would never stand trial.
There’s no mention of having been found guilty in the 14th amendment. Imagine an insurrectionist wins his gambit and packs the house and the senate with his people. He’s never going to be found guilty of anything. This gives the states an out on cases like that. And that’s why republicans have trying to erode state’s power over federal elections.
But but but state’s rights!
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